'Father' and 'Son' Ousted from the Trinity in New Bible Translations
A controversy is brewing over three reputable Christian organizations, which are based in North America, whose efforts have ousted the words "Father" and "Son" from new Bibles. Wycliffe Bible Translators, Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL) and Frontiers are under fire for "producing Bibles that remove "Father," "Son" and "Son of God" because these terms are offensive to Muslims."
Concerned Christian missionaries, Bible translators, pastors, and national church leaders have come together with a public petition to stop these organizations. They claim a public petition is their last recourse because meetings with these organizations' leaders, staff resignations over this issue and criticism and appeals from native national Christians concerned about the translations "have failed to persuade these agencies to retain "Father" and "Son" in the text of all their translations."
Biblical Missiology, a ministry of Boulder, Colorado-based Horizon International, is sponsoring the petition.
The main issues of this controversy surround new Arabic and Turkish translations. Here are three examples native speakers give:
First, Wycliffe and SIL have produced Stories of the Prophets, an Arabic Bible that uses an Arabic equivalent of "Lord" instead of "Father" and "Messiah" instead of "Son."
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Allah?
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 07:07"Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things..." 2 Timothy 4:2-5
nonononononooooo
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 11:11They cant DO that. It is an offense to GOD and Jesus for this to happen. They haven't said anything against the Holy Spirit (amazingly enough) but that time cant be far off. The Muslims would be offended by the idea that there is such a being as the Holy Spirit as well. If they can erode the meaning of the Son and the concept of God as our Heavenly Father... it wont be long before the Spirit is under attack. Woe unto them when they do for anything said against the Son or Father is considered a forgiveable sin but words against the Holy Spirit is NOT.
makes your soul groan though doesnt it... :(
Infiltration.
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 13:46This is why I have three King James Versions at my house. I really don't trust any other scripture translation. Trusting the Word of God to secular (or ecumenical) printers is a very risky things to do.
Just a theory, do you think the Jesuit's are behind it? I've heard a theory that Jesuit's help the Emergent Church, a few mainline seminaries, ect.
The mocking "cultural anthropology / relevance" vs Scripture ...
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 14:36Religion / partisan humanistic gang theology deceives & mocks & curses vs relationship with the Father through the Son is Truth & blesses & brings Life ... Gen 3:1-6 ... Gen 4:26 began Hb#2490= wounding profaning accosting defiling call Hb#7121 = publish preach proclaim man ipulation through vain commentary Gen 11:6 ... Gen 12:1 ... Gen 21:9
Hey Jude…11
Big Ego / Smarter than God…disregard the Way...Cain
Big Money / Paid Advocate…disrespect the Truth...Balaam
Big Power / Gang organizer…destroy the Life (even their own)...Korah / Koran(nic)
Jude 11...Woe unto them! for they have run riotiously in the way of Cain, and have abandoned themselves for the sake of gain (it offers them, following) the error of Balaam, and have perished in rebellion (like that) of Korah
Php 3:18...For there are many, of whom I have often told, and now tell you even with tears, who walk (live) as enemies of the cross Christ (sin requires consequence / reward, the wages of sin is death, no flesh glory 1Cor1:28-29)...
They are doomed and their state is eternal misery (perdition) their god is their stomach (their partisan thinking, their appetites, their sensuality, sensing that their god is allah), and they glory in their shame, siding with earthly things and being of their party (partisan / gang think).