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Pre-Trib Rapture EXPLAINED!!

Heres a video that I was led to by the Holy Spirit after praying for clarification over my confusion of the timing of the Rapture. After watching I was 100% convinced of the pre-trib rapture. After praying and stumbling across this video there were other factors that absolutely confirmed this position of belief.., there is not glimmer of doubt in my mind that we will be caught up to be with Him pre-tribulation, He has ABSOLUTELY confirmed this for me in more ways than one recently I promise you this!! Please check out this video when you have time (it is rather long but well worth the time) regardless of your position of belief but especially if you are questioning the matter at all.. Thanx!!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=crtpPD8VPP8

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thank you for posting this

Thank you for posting this video.Here is another link because I tried the one you posted and it didn't work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di7Q_aDljUs The rapture of the church is simple to understand, just like the gospel. The timing is also easy to understand. The church will not be here during any part of the tribulation or wrath or opening of the seals. We are in heaven. God will show you the truth and not only show you the truth but confirm it as you have attested to. Keep looking for the blessed hope that we have been promised and may you receive your crown!

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I just stated this same thing

I just stated this same thing on the main News article and was told not to judge people.

I just don't get it. How is telling the truth judging? I don't get it.

Always appreciate your posts, Vondean. You keep it simple and stick to the facts ; )

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Look UP!!

For our REDEMPTION draws nigh! : ) So come Quickly Lord Jesus! Your Bride awaits her GROOM! AMEN!

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You were judging no one. You were simply stating the truth. Stand fast in these last days the attacks against the truth is coming fast and furious. I enjoy your posts also. You seem to grasp the fact as I do to keep it simple. God is not the author of confusion and has given us His word in a way that babes can understand. Praise God you both have studied the bible and have been shown the truth about the rapture. It is a blessing that is given to the church for our comfort as the days grow dark.

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JH, I don't think it was

JH, I don't think it was clear that Deena was addressing that towards you. I think it might have been to MM, not sure, but the message was to everyone who claims that they now absolute truth on this issue. Be it pre-Trib, mid-Trib, or post. He was saying that some are allowing the timing issue to overshadow the IMPORTANT fact that all Christians can agree on; that Jesus is coming back and we need to be about His business, spreading the good news, until He returns. It is pointless to take these hard line stands on timing against your brothers/sisters. We should just be joyous and grateful for His return for us. Ponder these things, sure, but don't let it become a division in the end. It becomes about pride then...

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As a good example of how to

As a good example of how to handle our Rapture views as believers, look how Pookaloo handled her beliefs on this in another current rapture timing forum. She has her understanding of the rapture timing, doesn't claim that it is absolute Truth or that you must believe it. She said let it be between you & God. She states her beliefs peacefully, lets it go. That's a healthy way to share on this topic, to me.

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Spreading fear and doubt is something to be concerned about. We are given the blessed hope for a reason.

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My comments were intended as

My comments were intended as a general overview of this rapture argument, V. Not personal to you, even though you're a part of the conversation. What I was saying is, to use your words, turn the blessed hope to the true meaning; that He's coming for us. Not on the timing.

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The timing is important to me because I am comforted by the fact that I am promised not to be here for any of the coming wrath and it gives me hope and comfort. I apologize I thought it was directed at me. I would love to be able to just make a statement and let it go, but sometimes I need to respond to something that is said after.

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I know how much comfort your

I know how much comfort your pre-Trib view gives you, V. I get it. It's terrifying to consider the alternative of going through any portion of the Tribulation of God's great Wrath. I get it. But at what cost, comfort? To me, our comfort should come from knowing that His Presence is enough; be it wrapping us up and delivering us from the entire Tribulation, or His Presence residing with us through a portion of it while still here on earth. We will be with Him, regardless. He will decide, has decided, all that in the end, has a Plan, is what Deena was saying. Don't let the timing of His return overshadow the beauty of His Presence. It all rests in His Hands. Let that give us comfort. I say this gently, not hard; know you can't "hear" my delivery in this writing form.

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I know how much comfort your

I know how much comfort your pre-Trib view gives you, V. I get it. It's terrifying to consider the alternative of going through any portion of the Tribulation of God's great Wrath. I get it. But at what cost, comfort? To me, our comfort should come from knowing that His Presence is enough; be it wrapping us up and delivering us from the entire Tribulation, or His Presence residing with us through a portion of it while still here on earth. We will be with Him, regardless. He will decide, has decided, all that in the end, has a Plan, is what Deena was saying. Don't let the timing of His return overshadow the beauty of His Presence. It all rests in His Hands. Let that give us comfort. I say this gently, not hard; know you can't "hear" my delivery in this writing form.

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thank you

Thank you for your gentle delivery. Yes I know about the comfort you are talking about, more than you realize. I suffer daily from a disease that is painful. I know about resting in His arms and receiving his strength and comfort. The timing of his coming doesn't overshadow the beauty of His presence it enhances it.

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vondean i believe the church

vondean i believe the church will not go through the judgements of revelation absolutely! i just think that we are pre- wrath only because of what rev 6: 16-17kjv says... and i think that seals 1-5 are already open and will just increase in severity.... i believe we're outta here when the 6th seal opens... which i believe will be soooon!!! i think that our timings are similar just maybe the terminology we use different... and i agree we should be watching for our Lord to appear

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COME LORD JESUS!

I dont care what trib people are... Im crying COME LORD every day now. The world and the sin within it waxes worse and worse and even the earth heaves in travail! Praise GOD Im goooinngg HOME. Going Home.. IM going home. There's nothing that hoollddsss me heerreee. Well I got a glimpse of that Heav'nly land. PRAISE GOD! Im gooinnngg home!
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Amen Sister! :)

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loving His appearing! I am

loving His appearing! I am soooo outta here!!!! can't wait to meet everyone and most of all see my Loving Saviour's Face!!!

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Looking for the bow in the cloud
Genesis 9:12 (KJV) And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
Ezekiel 1:28 (KJV) As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.
Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

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Holy Spirit and Rapture

Notice the wording:

2 Corinthians 1:21-22 (KJV) Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

I realized the power of this when I bought my first house. They asked for an earnest payment, i.e. a down-payment! The Holy Spirit is our down-payment of our salvation! Now, with this in mind, when He is removed, II Thessalonians 2, we have to go with him otherwise the Son of Perdition will not be revealed!

Another reminder:

2 Corinthians 5:5 (KJV) Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

Still not convinced of the play on words? Here it is spelled out! Glory to God!!!

Ephesians 1:13-14 (KJV) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

What happens at "redemption"? If I give you a winning lotto ticket, what do you have to do to get the loot? Redeem it! Cash it in!

So what happens when the cash in of the purchased item? HA!

1 Corinthians 15:53-54 (KJV) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

So what's been purchased? US!

1 Corinthians 6:20 (KJV) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Whose the buyer!? HEHE!

Deuteronomy 32:6 (KJV) Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?
2 Peter 2:1 (KJV) But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (KJV) What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Cool huh!? :) Praise the LORD Almighty!

Hebrew Letters: bought is mik-naw (mem-qof-nun-hey) meaning waters, horizon, life, grace

The horizon never ends!

Bought means everlasting living waters of grace! How cool is that!?

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Funny you mentioned that

Funny you mentioned that about the Holy Spirit being removed with us. Does anyone remember this part of the movie Close encounters of the third kind? What a creepy statement they make at the 1:00:00 mark

"What I need is something so scary it will clear a 300 square mile of every living Christian soul"

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